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itch: Kings of Babylon itch: Kings of Babylon http://itch.com/index.php Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:41:02 -0500 5 Starting Cf hours http://itch.com/index.php?showtopic=17872 ]]> Fri, 20 Nov 2009 04:19:07 -0500 http://itch.com/index.php?showtopic=17872 Bounty not working http://itch.com/index.php?showtopic=17868
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]]> Fri, 20 Nov 2009 00:19:50 -0500 http://itch.com/index.php?showtopic=17868 world and global maps not working http://itch.com/index.php?showtopic=17864 Oh, btw, I'm using the name "Corruption" this round.]]> Thu, 19 Nov 2009 22:27:57 -0500 http://itch.com/index.php?showtopic=17864 Abolish the CAPTCHA http://itch.com/index.php?showtopic=17860
I personally would rather have the CAPTCHA completely removed or put in if you type the wrong password (even once). If not that, then switch to reCAPTCHA.]]> Thu, 19 Nov 2009 21:16:19 -0500 http://itch.com/index.php?showtopic=17860 colors http://itch.com/index.php?showtopic=17856 I have a hard time telling the difference between pink and purple on the global map. does anyone else feel that way? can we make pink moore pink looking? Thu, 19 Nov 2009 19:56:39 -0500 http://itch.com/index.php?showtopic=17856 tavio http://itch.com/index.php?showtopic=17866

QUOTE (NateDog @ Nov 19 2009, 10:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

When using IE try the latest download: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/Internet-...er/default.aspx

When can i play again?
i got banned last round

i got carried away im sorry
can i please play again]]> Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:33:55 -0500 http://itch.com/index.php?showtopic=17866 Log In trouble? http://itch.com/index.php?showtopic=17851
I know my login info works because i easily log in at itch.com]]> Thu, 19 Nov 2009 15:52:42 -0500 http://itch.com/index.php?showtopic=17851 Newest KoB Round http://itch.com/index.php?showtopic=17846 ]]> Thu, 19 Nov 2009 15:02:21 -0500 http://itch.com/index.php?showtopic=17846 KoB Facebook Logins http://itch.com/index.php?showtopic=17845

]]> Thu, 19 Nov 2009 14:58:41 -0500 http://itch.com/index.php?showtopic=17845 KOB Membership Transfers http://itch.com/index.php?showtopic=17844 ]]> Thu, 19 Nov 2009 14:57:24 -0500 http://itch.com/index.php?showtopic=17844 Facebook and Itch KoB http://itch.com/index.php?showtopic=17837 How is it going to work? If I sign up on facebook when KoB starts...can I also be able to get into my account from Itch?? Or do I just have to pick to either sign up in itch or facebook when the game starts? It would be nice if I could get into my account through both of them. Thu, 19 Nov 2009 13:52:09 -0500 http://itch.com/index.php?showtopic=17837 Issue with Jan changes http://itch.com/index.php?showtopic=17813
Not only that, but they provide less def/hp per unit time.

I would say jans should stay at 3 mins TT. They still provide awesome defense per support, but swords provide slight more HP per TT and comparable def/TT. At least this way there is some tradeoff. With 2 min jans, there is no reason for swords.

]]> Wed, 18 Nov 2009 15:52:48 -0500 http://itch.com/index.php?showtopic=17813 map http://itch.com/index.php?showtopic=17810 west east]]> Wed, 18 Nov 2009 15:34:15 -0500 http://itch.com/index.php?showtopic=17810 Iron, http://itch.com/index.php?showtopic=17805 Ironminers are the only workers still making 5.... everything else makes 10... is it by mistake? Wed, 18 Nov 2009 15:17:53 -0500 http://itch.com/index.php?showtopic=17805 Log in Issues http://itch.com/index.php?showtopic=17853 I get to the log in page and enter my info, but when I click submit, I get sent to the register page. Do we all need to reregister? Wed, 18 Nov 2009 15:17:40 -0500 http://itch.com/index.php?showtopic=17853 The Next Round Table http://itch.com/index.php?showtopic=17794 Any ideas as to whether this will be continued and if so, when we might be having another vote. We only have a 3 month round and i would like to see the next round table be in place at least a month before the round ends. By then we should be able to see what is working and what isnt. Wed, 18 Nov 2009 13:54:54 -0500 http://itch.com/index.php?showtopic=17794 KoB Merged 1 http://itch.com/index.php?showtopic=17790 Ends: 2/12 @ 14:00

1) Change Plaid back to white
2) 3 month round (ending before Valentines day)
3) Change Rec production from 5/h to 10/h
4) There is a fixed schedule for wars (see below)
5) Merchants speed and Capacity significantly increeased
6) Warehouse Capacity increased by about 4x
7) Griff's Conquer Protection Rules
8) Troops Build Times: Swords to one minute jannis, & archers to 2 minutes.
9) Troops Travel Time: *1.5 for all troops except Jannis which will be *3
10) Smaller Map (1600x1600) with stars more condensed in the middle area
11) Troop Maintenance: jannis to 1g,2f
12) RS and offense/defense points lasting the whole round vs. 30 days
13) Only Royals and Digs contribute to Realm rank.
14) Catas do building damage
15) Conquer Protection logic is now based on how long a vill has been owned:
CP Hours = DaysHeld/14 * 48
Max CP = 48 hours. There is no CP if you held it less than 1 day.
When a vill is conquered, the delay before it can be razed uses this same formula but the delay before a village can be raised is never decreased, only increased.
16) Royal court size is 11
17) There is an in-game market for specials but it does not open until after day 7 of the round.
18) No points for attacks on banished players.
19) Barracks and Stables troop caps increased.

War Schedule
============

11/18 - 11/22 : All Neutral

11/23 - 11/29 : War Week 1

11/30 - 12/6 : All Neutral

12/7 - 12/13 : War Week 2

12/14 - 12/20 : All Neutral

12/21 - 12/27 : War Week 3

12/28 - 1/3 : All Neutral

1/4 - 1/10 : War Week 4

1/11 - 1/17 : All Neutral

1/18 - 1/24 : War Week 5

1/25 - 1/31 : All Neutral

2/1 - 2/7 : War Week 6

2/8 - 2/12: All Neutral]]> Wed, 18 Nov 2009 13:09:19 -0500 http://itch.com/index.php?showtopic=17790 Changes for this round? What are they? http://itch.com/index.php?showtopic=17787

edit: Here is Nates announcement of changes.]]> Wed, 18 Nov 2009 12:16:32 -0500 http://itch.com/index.php?showtopic=17787 Facebook servers http://itch.com/index.php?showtopic=17761

When was the end of the round? Where did i finish

i thought it was to end later in the day. HELP!!!!!!!!]]> Tue, 17 Nov 2009 12:16:51 -0500 http://itch.com/index.php?showtopic=17761 KOB is the best game http://itch.com/index.php?showtopic=17752 Mon, 16 Nov 2009 19:55:24 -0500 http://itch.com/index.php?showtopic=17752 Class System http://itch.com/index.php?showtopic=17745
You keep the R,D,C,P

But when you join you have an option to join one of three tiers

Tier 1(beginner) for newer players or players who want to play without conquers
Rules: No conquers, Half of the current troop caps maximum of 20 in comings per week and 40 outgoings per week fakes included

Tier 2:(intermediate): For experienced players who want to play with troop caps and conquers
Rules: Current or double troop cap levels, Conquers

Tier 3:(expert players) Players who want to play a war game
No troop caps and conquers

Rules for tier jumping:

Can jump once every seven days

Rules for tier attacking:

Beginners vs Beginners,Intermediate

Intermediate vs Intermediate,Expert

Expert vs Expert

For attacking it would be kinda like the reverse of sending RS you can only attack up.

Might need tweaking but its just a general idea.]]> Mon, 16 Nov 2009 13:50:39 -0500 http://itch.com/index.php?showtopic=17745 Raze town on bonus star + plus http://itch.com/index.php?showtopic=17740 Alot of of nice bonus star, fullfill w/ town been raze by big players.
example 1 town stand in bonus star the other 2 or 3 been raze...
I know is we call some strategy, but other call scare way or selfishess....
I like to bring this to discuss and please bring to the round table....

1. perhaps those town build in bonus should have extra hours to raze....
2. When U conq. those town, more hours to raze it if U dislike the town.
3. those great bonus such 15%, 20%all sources, 35% and 50% Food and Gold or 30% wood,Stone and Iron. should not able to be raze except if U conq. from some-1...

extra
4. when ever the size of map get smaller the star should much more in 3 or 4 "cluster"
5. maybe need new bonus star as 20%-30% stable and barrack production...]]> Mon, 16 Nov 2009 03:43:55 -0500 http://itch.com/index.php?showtopic=17740 Early Bird Log In http://itch.com/index.php?showtopic=17732 Hey Nate...Could we have an early bird login for the day before like in OE? All you can do is pick quadrant and realm. Build first buildings with starting resources and set up unit queue. You would make no resources and no units would build until the round actually starts. Maybe not this round but next round? Sun, 15 Nov 2009 16:49:03 -0500 http://itch.com/index.php?showtopic=17732 Ideas for Future Round Table Discussion http://itch.com/index.php?showtopic=17726 This one is carried over from a different thread:
"The only possible way to change something like that would be to base it on Kingdom Spirit. The village limitations now are there to protect new players. If we based it on Kingdom Spirit, we could still protect new players and we could possibly get seasoned players to build more villages. Here is how it could work.
If you only have the spirit for 2 villages, then anyone with the spirit for 1-4 villages could attack you whether you had 1 or 2 villages and you could attack anyone with 1-4 villages . It would be just like you had 2 villages in the current format.
If you have the spirit for 8 villages, then you can be attacked by anyone with 4-15 villages and you could omly attack anyone with 4-15 villages. And you could have anywhere from 1 to 8 villages. It would be just like you had 8 villages in the current format. "
Another idea of mine:
We need a new unit that can be trained anywhere, only defends in a conquer, and cannot ne reinforced. The defense wouldnt have to be more than 30-50 and the cost to train and maintain needs to be high. I would say 15-20 gold and food to maintain. Noy sure of teh training cost. That way, someone couldnt build 10k of them in a mediocre village and be able to maintain them. This would help make conquers harder. maybe forcing realms to do joint conquers on well built villages.

These are a couple of my ideas. I hope some others out there have more. I have others, but I will save them in case I ever make the Round Table.

]]> Sat, 14 Nov 2009 21:16:47 -0500 http://itch.com/index.php?showtopic=17726 Attacks within village size http://itch.com/index.php?showtopic=17724 Sat, 14 Nov 2009 18:11:10 -0500 http://itch.com/index.php?showtopic=17724 Hussars http://itch.com/index.php?showtopic=17723 Sat, 14 Nov 2009 17:42:11 -0500 http://itch.com/index.php?showtopic=17723 Formula In The Game http://itch.com/index.php?showtopic=17711
We are looking at VS, CB, CP, Conquer, Raze, Destroy, etc. as separate entities and it's going to end up just horrible looking (of course, a lot of the formula will disappear in the Code... until someone asks Why the Hell? that is).

Let's start with Village Strength as the base. It's Villages that are the heart of the Game, the source of everything and the prizes.

Village Strength= Total Building Levels/36, rounded normally.
-giving a number between 0 and 25, for BL 1-17 and 882-891. Based entirely on the build-up in the Village.

Combat (Cluster) Bonus is the sum of all the Realm VS's in the four adjacent rings, capped at 200. I'd prefer something I mentioned elsewhere to "lace" up Clusters, CB is the sum of 0.33x Realm VS's in the second ring, 0.66x Realm VS's in the third ring, the Realm VS's in the fourth, and 0.33x the Realm VS's in the fifth ring. This might require some CB-Buildings to beef things up, but I want those anyway.

Conquer Protection can be VSxVS/AvgVS hours. If an average village, was say 471BL (say, one with 11/11's and 70/5's or an 81/11's with a new 10/5's next to it), Conquering the 81/11's would give you 48 hours of CP, the mid-one 13h, and the new one roughly 4.5 minutes. Maybe make it 3xVSxVS/AvgVS, I like that better.

Time To Raze would be Length of Previous Ownership, minimum of 3xVS hours, maximum 168h (well, I'd go 180h for 3's and 6's).

Time To Destroy Buildings would be half the Time to Raze, maximum 24h (well, 30h)."

"Oh, hmm, totally forgot griff's idea...

Conquers automatically get x2D and x0.5A (or did and should again).

They also get an additional +(6xVS)% to D and a -(3xVS)% reduction in Conquering Morale."

]]> Fri, 13 Nov 2009 10:41:23 -0500 http://itch.com/index.php?showtopic=17711 Question for the round table http://itch.com/index.php?showtopic=17684 What is currently being discussed? Could you possibly start a sticky topic and update it every 2-3 days so we know what ideas are being thrown around at least? Tue, 10 Nov 2009 12:22:07 -0500 http://itch.com/index.php?showtopic=17684 Points for attacking banished http://itch.com/index.php?showtopic=17679
But another reason to not allow attack points on banished is to eliminate the exploit of sending a load of resources to a realm mate, having one or the other go banished, and then farming them with Camels, then rejoining the realm.

They get tons of offense and tons of RS (which they get back), but not really for playing the game.]]> Mon, 09 Nov 2009 19:12:38 -0500 http://itch.com/index.php?showtopic=17679 Proposal for a New Defend Action http://itch.com/index.php?showtopic=17664
I would propose that we add a new action, separate from reinforce - that is "Defend". When you defend another player, your troops are there just for the moment and will participate as synched defense along with the person's troops you are defending. After that moment, they return to you. Bascically, the defense equivalent of an attack. You get your share of any defense points and losses.

I think this would make the game more exciting and less frustrating. You won't have to worry about whether the person you are defending has enough gold and food when you defend rather than reinforce - or troop cap to send them back. You get the points you deserve for helping teammates. This will make swinging the realm defense stack a rewarding job and encourage teamwork on the defense side.

It also makes the decision whether to reinforce or defend a strategic decision. Since defend ties up the defense for the travel time, it won't always be the best idea. Sometimes reinforce would be better. But reinforce can be used to support offense and defense now - it's not really a defense action. There is really a missing defense capability in the game now.]]> Sun, 08 Nov 2009 11:45:40 -0500 http://itch.com/index.php?showtopic=17664 catapults http://itch.com/index.php?showtopic=17651 Make them expensive to build, time expenditure, make the hits count, and make them a one time use and they are destroyed. In real war I believe they were burned on the field after use, not hauled back home like we do now. Troops accompanying the cats return home at a quicker speed. Realistically I don't think there has ever been 1500 catapults at a town, castle or fort ever. I would guess less than 50 have ever been on a field of war. I could be very wrong.

I know this would mess up the current use of cats to lower morale in conquers, and this use I think is bunk anyway. Multiple emissaries or successive emissary should fulfill this purpose. A conquer by emissary is supposed to undermine the loyalty and talk the people into switching sides.

This way we could use cats that work the way they are supposed to work and every ROE wouldn't have to exclude them, and they wouldn't be exploited to be used in conquers.]]> Fri, 06 Nov 2009 12:54:32 -0500 http://itch.com/index.php?showtopic=17651 this is why we need to speed up travel times http://itch.com/index.php?showtopic=17647 attacker attack type Village Targeted Arrives in
endofyou Attack Countryside Ranch 11h 47m 49s

I have time to move my res out by merchant and move in every speck of defence I have]]> Fri, 06 Nov 2009 11:58:22 -0500 http://itch.com/index.php?showtopic=17647 Conq Protection Exploit http://itch.com/index.php?showtopic=17623
WH]]> Wed, 04 Nov 2009 17:24:21 -0500 http://itch.com/index.php?showtopic=17623 What Are We Trying To Do??? http://itch.com/index.php?showtopic=17616
This is actually the zeroth issue, above the Combat System. "

I have this one the Round Table, too. I'd like to open it up to a larger audience.]]> Wed, 04 Nov 2009 11:48:34 -0500 http://itch.com/index.php?showtopic=17616 Consolidated Servers/memberships http://itch.com/index.php?showtopic=17605
servers per nate

what will happen to people that will still have membership active at this time. Will they carry over to the new server?]]> Tue, 03 Nov 2009 17:37:05 -0500 http://itch.com/index.php?showtopic=17605 KoB facebook 1 and 2 game ideas http://itch.com/index.php?showtopic=17582

We all know that the combat should be changed, so lets not dwell on that one for now, standard topics are working that line that can easily transfer to facebook.

Post ideas about round length, build, production, travel, conquers, spying (this one sucks now) ect. All will be itemized and brought to nate when we can.]]> Mon, 02 Nov 2009 23:12:17 -0500 http://itch.com/index.php?showtopic=17582 Hybrid Attack system Idea http://itch.com/index.php?showtopic=17581
I know I mentioned it in the forums in one of my posts, and this is in hopes of balancing Offense and Defense. What if we did a mixture of the system now and the old system. The first wave of every unique realm member would be combined. Then the second waves of uniques would be combined. Meaning if Mari, WH and RBM all attacked Wareasy (

) with 2 waves each of 5k palis and 10k Archers. Then wave one would be 15k palis and 30k archers. Then wave 2 would be the same. It would encourage realm attacks again and not totally overload another realms D.

WH]]> Mon, 02 Nov 2009 22:57:54 -0500 http://itch.com/index.php?showtopic=17581 Attack Systems http://itch.com/index.php?showtopic=17568
Is it just a perception thing? Is it possible that it's only because the system is new and no one is used to it that it looks that way? Is it possible that the fact Attacks don't add means no one cares enough to hit together anymore? Or that there are less Players and those that remain know their Defense which hasn't _drastically_ changed AND has been made easier better than a completely changed O system?

Anything that hurts teamwork is BAD for the Game, and this change is the Death Blow for the KoB that we were all playing. We might make a good game out of this mess but it will NOT be The Game. Do you think this community would have developed under the current system? Take a look at OE.]]> Mon, 02 Nov 2009 10:59:15 -0500 http://itch.com/index.php?showtopic=17568 KoB round table final results http://itch.com/index.php?showtopic=17562

Whitehorse 59 votes

rbm33 55 votes

Biancamaria 54 votes

Enygma 53 votes

mariyana 53 votes

mrobinso200 52 votes

wareazy 49 votes

Congrats to all.]]> Sun, 01 Nov 2009 18:56:25 -0500 http://itch.com/index.php?showtopic=17562 IE login issue problem http://itch.com/index.php?showtopic=17560 Sun, 01 Nov 2009 12:23:49 -0500 http://itch.com/index.php?showtopic=17560 KoB Round Table Vote 2 http://itch.com/index.php?showtopic=17549

This topic will be open to all discussion on the round table. I suggest that if you want to suggest ideas, that we make a new thread on that, or post in whitehorses top 5 ideas thread.

I will also add that the names are in the order of when they posted they wanted in.

I'll leave this topic open till i see no activity on it. Probly throught sunday.]]> Fri, 30 Oct 2009 14:40:35 -0400 http://itch.com/index.php?showtopic=17549 KoB Round table VOTE!!! http://itch.com/index.php?showtopic=17548 Fri, 30 Oct 2009 14:03:25 -0400 http://itch.com/index.php?showtopic=17548 Game change thoughts http://itch.com/index.php?showtopic=17542
LOW = 3 hours of effort
MEDIUM = 10 hours of effort
HIGH = 30 hours of effort

The total number of hours that I can commit for this next round is 30-40 hours. If the Round Table decides that more hours are really needed to get the game to where it needs to be, then we'll have to discuss moving the start date of the round back. That's not a direction I'd be excited about (because the more change all at one time, the more stability risks), but I'm open to it.

Estimates on some of the things I see being discussed or had already assumed I would be fixing/changing:

LOW:

1) Fixing catapults so they actually work

2) Changing attack logic so Emissaries die when 50% of attackers die.

3) Changes to unit availability (e.g. a unit is available in a castle, or once you have a level 4 building, etc.).

4) Changes to building stats.

5) Adding fixed realm war schedule.

6) Banished as enemies, score for banished attacks, etc.

7) Resource rates and travel times.

MEDIUM:

1) Adding new buildings (assuming the effect of the building is "reasonable").

2) Eliminating starvation in favor of locked down vills with negative gold/food.

3) Rework of conquer protection rules.

4) Rework of TiM limitations/rules.

5) Adding a dynamic realm war schedule (any schedule other than a fixed one).

6) UI overhaul esp on the build/upgrade and home screens.

HIGH:

1) Adding new units.

2) Supporting joint attacks.

I won't be able to think through and provide estimates on everyone's ideas and changes. But, when the Round Table comes up with their list, then I'll give some estimates for them so they can decide which are worth doing or not doing.]]> Fri, 30 Oct 2009 12:38:16 -0400 http://itch.com/index.php?showtopic=17542 <![CDATA[help i just cant figure out f'n how]]> http://itch.com/index.php?showtopic=17541 ive built buildings recruited soldiers and workers but wat must i do?!?!?! Fri, 30 Oct 2009 12:17:09 -0400 http://itch.com/index.php?showtopic=17541 Top 5 subjects the Round Table should debate http://itch.com/index.php?showtopic=17536

First things I think the Round table needs to find out is how much time is Nate really going to put into this. If its not a lot then we need to reduce expectations and look to easy things for him to solve vs tackling the larger issues.

1) Combat system: Is there any chance he will review the code to even think about bringing back joint attacks. He has said their not coming back, but I feel I should ask again anyway

2) Does he have a complete list of weird bugs that exist in the game and does he have an update of if or when they will be fixed?

Now as for the 5 things I think the group should discuss if he is making time available and will do WHAT EVER WE WANT

(I know I am dreaming but hey its a post)

1- How to attract and retain more players: This should be top consideration
2- TiM: Is troops in movement here to stay (I am ok but I do miss Alpha)
3- Defense vs Offense: No matter what the attack system it needs balance
4- Player types, upgradeable city sizes and fun new buildings!
5- Attack system: I love the new units and the death order but I miss joint attacks

Easy steps that shouldn't take much time

1- Janis: Swords and archers now have a real place in the game but we lost Janis
They Die first, can only be built in Castles and will never make you
any money. The fastest idea to me is just to drop the maintenance cost
to 1 and 1. This will help Defense minded players and should be a
simple change.
2- Map size and bonus Stars: I think the map is to large for the player count
3- Conquers: I do conq's and feel they are a great part of the game. But some
players don't. So CP needs to be discussed and see Capitols below.
4- Capitals: Make Capitols conq proof no matter your size but
they can never be changed. (Assuming that is easy) But I think
that there is a lot more than can be done with the Capitols and
think there should be a long discussing just on this piece alone.
5- War Schedules: Bring them back on a 3 week basis and then reshuffle
based on the idea of "Super Realms"
6- FARMING BANISHED SHOULD NEVER GIVE OFFENSE POINTS (I know I said 5 but this was fixed and then lost for no reason

)

I know we have all talked ourselves to death on fun ideas and what ifs, but maybe with some hope here we can revive some ideas.

WH
]]> Thu, 29 Oct 2009 14:56:28 -0400 http://itch.com/index.php?showtopic=17536 Downtime Refund/Adjustment http://itch.com/index.php?showtopic=17532 aming

QUOTE (NateDog @ Oct 28 2009, 06:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

After looking at the player numbers and reading through the forums, I've come to the decision that for now at least, KoB is best served by having just one consolidated server.

The playerbase on each server is just barely enough to support the game, but if we combine all the servers, I think we will have a much more competitive game.

It also has the benefit that I'll be able to manage just one environment much easier than 4 separate environments. And, I think it also ties into the round table for player driven feedback better.

So, the next KoB server will launch on November 18th. This is after all existing servers have ended and it should give me a solid week to incorporate the top priorities that come out of the player round table.

Thanks,
Nate

]]> Thu, 29 Oct 2009 06:48:47 -0400 http://itch.com/index.php?showtopic=17532 KoB - Single Merged Server http://itch.com/index.php?showtopic=17526
The playerbase on each server is just barely enough to support the game, but if we combine all the servers, I think we will have a much more competitive game.

It also has the benefit that I'll be able to manage just one environment much easier than 4 separate environments. And, I think it also ties into the round table for player driven feedback better.

So, the next KoB server will launch on November 18th. This is after all existing servers have ended and it should give me a solid week to incorporate the top priorities that come out of the player round table.

Thanks,
Nate]]> Wed, 28 Oct 2009 13:58:52 -0400 http://itch.com/index.php?showtopic=17526 KoB Round Table http://itch.com/index.php?showtopic=17523
Each player will state why they should be and why they want to be in this group. There will be no comments allowed in this topic other than those who are posting that they want in.

After a few days i will post a vote with the players names who volunteered for this group. Then it will be voted on who will be included on it. These players do not have to be active forum people. We want players who care about how the game progresses. Please tell everyone you know about this and get them here if they want part of it, or to even cast a vote.

So go ahead and start posting a clear and concise post of why you should be in this panel. Again, i will delete any posts that are not players volunteering for this, or any comments on a prior post.

You can post in the other topic and discuss who and why and whatever you feel about this.]]> Wed, 28 Oct 2009 12:58:34 -0400 http://itch.com/index.php?showtopic=17523 Archer Changes http://itch.com/index.php?showtopic=17520
Under the old rules, archers were a virtually useless unit. Their power/training time, power/support cost, and power/troop cap were all inferior to mams and even pals (I think), so there was no reason to devote valuable training hours to them when you could be making mams or pals.

Under the new rules, the same applies, and even if they are used as suicide units, they still lose out to sultans on training time.

The one time I have seen archers used effectively was in the last 2 rounds of kobx, when they were reduced to the same TT as workers (and so were swords), and the troop capacity of barracks were doubled.

This meant that an archer army of 40k became a reasonable alternative to cavalry armies in terms of time and overall power. I don't remember the exact numbers, but archers produced the highest Attack/TT of any unit, followed by mams and elephants.

The fact that they are more expensive to support keeps the unit balance, since when you are at max cap cavalry is cheaper to support for the same power.

Thoughts?]]> Wed, 28 Oct 2009 00:53:54 -0400 http://itch.com/index.php?showtopic=17520 conquer protection http://itch.com/index.php?showtopic=17508 cp needs to go back to village value at least based on morale, currently it is an automatic 24 hours if any ville gets taken which is clearly being abused *cough******cough****** not to mention a limit on how many times the same village can be conquered by the same people in a week... Mon, 26 Oct 2009 21:49:00 -0400 http://itch.com/index.php?showtopic=17508